Usuario discusión:Sannse

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Qué tal Sannse, esperamos que hagas grandes aportaciones económicas en nuestra amada Inciclopedia. Recuerda que los artículos con menos de 5 líneas son eliminados de forma instantánea. Échale un vistazo a tutores y FAQ para aprender las reglas básicas.

No olvides firmar sólo en las discusiones y en el Forum con el botón que muestra el siguente esquema:

Saludos .-- Bob⁰⁰⁸ (Zoom) 17:07 23 ene 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, just a passing staffer though :) -- sannse (talk) 17:10 23 ene 2007 (UTC)

I'll go on from here, I guess it may be easier for you than following a forum thread written mostly in Spanish. So, here's the thing, if I just wanted to satisfy my personal curiosity may be I would ask you by mail. However, I think you owe us all an explanation. You told us why you said "no" hundreds of times with out having to discuss it in public: it's parody. Would you tell us why you said "yes" this time? Again, I feel that if enough people keep asking that question in a rude manner for long enough, you would eventually answer. But you don't need to worry, I don't think it will get that far this time. --RatauB612 - Blog - Discusión 07:58 4 abr 2010 (UTC)

I haven't said "yes".

To repeat:

"My main concern yesterday was to remove the article to give us time to look into the issue.",

"So even if the decision is..." [emphasis added],

"if you as a community can think of a good solution and make it so I don't have to make any decision, I will be always grateful.",

"I would very much like to [discuss this] with you or another Inciclopedia admin",

"there was supposed to be a talk page message with that deletion, I'm sorry ".

And from Uncyclopedia: "I suspect keeping the article may be more bother than it's worth [...] but that's not clear yet." [emphasis added] -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 18:57 4 abr 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I rephrase. You usually say a straight "no" this time you said "may be" (or "delete now, answer later", "shoot first, ask later", "remove to give us time", or any other wording of what it seems like a factual yes). Would you tell us why?--RatauB612 - Blog - Discusión 11:45 5 abr 2010 (UTC)

I really don't want to be evasive, but I really am limited in being able to discuss the details here. I'm in the IRC channel in the hope of talking to you directly, perhaps you can join me there?

But I can certainly tell you a part of it - a particularly nasty goatse attack combined with engineering problems that made it difficult to actually remove the images from view In other words, my hands were full with a more urgent situation on other wikis and deletion meant that this issue was (I hoped) on hold. And, to be clear, this isn't unique. I've done similar deletions other cases - three cases I can think of instantly (one resulted in the page staying deleted, one ended with the page being replaced some time later, one involved a whole wiki which stayed deleted.)

So, to rephrase my questions: can we side-step this problem by changing the article to something mutually agreed? (setting aside the natural desire to say "screw you" to anyone asking trying to restrict topics for articles). Can I discuss this personally with you or another admin via email or IRC?

-- sannse<staff /> (talk) 17:36 5 abr 2010 (UTC)

To the first question: yes, I think so, but that means we need to know what you would agree to. We could, for instance, rewrite the article to make it more subtle and indirect. To the second: I'd be glad if some other admin than me steps foward.--RatauB612 - Blog - Discusión 23:07 5 abr 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sannse, like I was telling you before, it was said that was something "able" to do (but it's not a concrete fact) to create articles like "Demandacin", "Ra Amon Zin", "Romancin"... stuff like that. But they must be about an imaginary guy, but somehow, they could have something like "This article is about some not-real guy and not about a Spanish singer". Something would be putting pictures that has nothing to do there, or some inciclopedic universe to make it more "unreal", like the articles of Harry Potter that there are a lot of them that have nothing in common with the true novel. That's all, and oh, sorry if my english sucks. Thank you. The Freemaiden 06:10 9 abr 2010 (UTC)

That sounds like it would work too - as long as it's not "Ra Amon Zin" with lots of nasty stuff that is obviously directed at the singer -- sannse<staff /> (talk) 00:54 13 abr 2010 (UTC)

Incilovers of month

Junio del 2010. Otorgado a Sannse, por ser la mejor pareja junto su novio/a Ricardoxxxlo.

• Nombre del Novio:
• Nombre de la Novia:
• Como se conocieron:
• Cuanto tiempo llevan saliendo:

¡Que vivan los novios! --Maraletovio (Peleadera) 23:06 30 jun 2010 (UTC)

Awww... that's so sweet.... I think? -- sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 20:00 1 jul 2010 (UTC)

As I told that's an humorous wiki where everybody misinterpret some things. -- Rix DeLarge (Goboree conmigo) » Videe mis proyectos llenos de ultraviolencia 20:03 1 jul 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year

¡Felicidades Amigo!, Has sido recompensado por un grupo de frikis que ha decidido desperdiciar su valioso tiempo para nominar y votar por ti para ganar un premio sin valor alguno. Eres la pareja del año (junto a Ricardoxxxlo).

Felicidades -- Dalek »Exterminate Exterminate Exterminate 18:53 1 ene 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations Amigo!, You have been awarded by a group of geeks who have decided to waste their valuable time to nominate and vote for you to win a worthless price. You are the couple of the year (along with Ricardoxxxlo)..

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Google Traslate O:. Mentira :P -- Dalek »Exterminate Exterminate Exterminate 19:27 1 ene 2011 (UTC)

.-- Rix DeLarge (Goboree conmigo) » Videe mis proyectos llenos de ultraviolencia 19:59 1 ene 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys! I shall treasure this award always. Or at least for the next 10 minutes. And I think that, as we are now oficially a couple, Ricardoxxxlo and I should seriously consider starting a bitter fight that ends in divorce. It's only traditional! -- Sannse<staff /> (help forum | blog) 11:04 5 ene 2011 (UTC)

Would you please STOP

Stop erasing things that DOESN'T violate the terms of use, would ya? Thanks, ge. The Freemaiden 19:07 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Elmaiden, but nudity (including bare breasts and butts) are outside the Terms of Use. Please stop replacing them, when you do, they just go back through the review system and will be deleted again. If you have a specific image that you think we have made a mistake with, please let me know before replacing them. Thanks --- sannse (help forum | blog) 19:15 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Tipos de imágenes como pueden ser porno, escatológicas, vomitivas y demás macedonias no están expresamente prohibidas pero tienen que usarse para hacer humor y este debe ser MUY, MUY, MUY GRACIOSO. Si no quieres que sea juzgada para borrar o se borre al instante, se te de un aviso o incluso se te bloquee de por vida. La insinuación puede ser mucho más graciosa que el impacto. <--- It says that they`re not forbidden. So, If they aren't, I'm just gonna still reversing. The Freemaiden 19:19 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

That is not from the Terms of Use. The Wikia Terms of Use says:

You agree not to use the Service to:

[...]

Post or transmit any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, or content that contains homophobia, ethnic slurs, religious intolerance, or encourages criminal conduct;

And Wikia's interpretation of that includes nudity -- sannse (help forum | blog) 19:26 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't see it says something like that, the things you are erasing are not porn or obscene, are just random images of nudity. And that doesn't say NUDITY. It says OBSCENE and PORNOGRAPHIC. So, until it says that, I'm not gonna stop reversing. The Freemaiden 19:30 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

As I said, Wikia considers nudity to be an aspect of that (the whole line, which includes "offensive" and "profane"). Whatever my own views on that, I have to remove images according to that interpretation. And I'm afraid if you keep replacing the images, I will have to ban you. -- sannse (help forum | blog) 19:46 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Sorry but that's not my interpretation of that line. I can't imagine that, emmm, offensive and profane can include nudity. Ge, I thought that offensive and profane would be, I don't know, mutilated corpses? Sorry, I just don't get it, and that interpretation, to me, seems wrong 'cos the terms doesn't say that. And even reading between the lines they doesn't say that. The Freemaiden 19:59 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

I agree. "Profane" and "obscene" would be Encyclopaedia Dramatica-level content. The pics you're deleting are pretty tame, actually. Gil Culiao (discusión) 20:05 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Hello Sannse. Please, let's talk about this with care. We are completely aware of the Wikia terms (although I personally don't understand why we see this measures more than six months since the change). As far as I can see in your Terms of Use, it states that it is not allowed " any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane", which is in pair with our Terms (derivated from Wikia's obviously) that allege no sexual content unless it is extremely funny. We all agree in this. But what we find particularly surprising is that the images that are being deleted are just containing nudity. That is why Elmaiden is restoring them back and asking. In neither Wikia's or our's terms it is specified clearly that all nudity picture is forbidden without exceptions.

We could however been informed of this (or at least warned) so that to talk about it and find a more civilized or have taken measures to not make the page suffer such a radical change. Please, understand us, we don't want more disappointments with Wikia, they are just too many. Regards, /* #REDIRECT */mw.loader.load("//inciclopedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usuario:Erredece/Firma.js\u0026action=raw\u0026ctype=text/javascript"); 20:08 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

Now Inciclopedia will be family friendly? Oh come on, as Ken (el marico) says these pictures aren't offensive, pornographic, offensive or profane. If this is considered porn, Wikipedia has a lot of it... Y Maiden, vaya que estás algo noob con estos temas de Wikia y su staff. Antes de enojarte, mandar y revertir los cambios de un staff bruscamente, mejor primero pide explicaciones. Que aunque hemos recibido muuuuchas decepciones por parte de Wikia, no creo que lo mejor sea querer pasarle por encima a alguien con un cargo mucho más superior.-- Rix DeLarge (Goboree conmigo) » Videe mis proyectos llenos de ultraviolencia 21:05 2 oct 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I understand that you think the images are OK, but they are outside the Terms of Use as we define them (which follows American levels, including their strict view of visible nipples on mainstream media). Our rules are different from Wikipedia's, and the result is that we do not allow images of sex or nakedness, including bare breasts and buttocks. Some of the images I deleted were borderline, and I'm willing to discuss them, but most were definitely ones that I have to delete.

As for the delay, we've been working on removing problem images for a while now - but recently there was a bug fixed that meant a whole new batch went in to the review process. If you see nakedness on other wikis, it's likely that the images are in this new batch, or were missed somehow. There's nothing happening here that isn't (or hasn't) happened on other wikis.

I'm sorry you didn't get a warning, but the check on images was something that had to be done on thousands of wikis. The deletions are done via a staff tool and I have no way of which knowing which wikis will show up there. In the vast majority of cases, there have been no problems with the deletions, so I can't know which to warn!

You are a very creative bunch, so I'm sure you can find alternatives to using naked images in your humor. I will have to continue to revert the reversions though -- sannse (help forum | blog) 22:55 2 oct 2012 (UTC)